Rock ‘n’ Roll

How can people, I hear it all the time, including the media, refer to artists who are in the pop and hip hop genre, rock stars? They are not rock stars. They don’t play rock music. You can’t be a rock star unless you play rock n roll.

I agree, but I suppose it has to do with earning a reputation for a certain lifestyle rather than with the music, itself.

Chuck Berry – “Reeling & Rocking” Live 1972
Charles Edward Anderson “Chuck” Berry (born October 18, 1926 in St. Louis, Missouri) is an American guitarist, singer and songwriter.
Chuck Berry is an influential figure and one of the pioneers of rock and roll music. According to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame’s website, “While no individual can be said to have invented rock and roll, Chuck Berry comes the closest of any single figure to being the one who put all the essential pieces together.” Cub Koda wrote, “Of all the early breakthrough rock & roll artists, none is more important to the development of the music than Chuck Berry. He is its greatest songwriter, the main shaper of its instrumental voice, one of its greatest guitarists, and one of its greatest performers.” John Lennon was more succinct: “If you tried to give rock and roll another name, you might call it ‘Chuck Berry’.”
Berry was among the first musicians to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame on its opening in 1986. He received Kennedy Center Honors in 2000 in a “class” with Mikhail Baryshnikov, Plácido Domingo, Angela Lansbury, and Clint Eastwood. In 2004, Rolling Stone ranked Chuck Berry #5 on their list of the 100 Greatest Artists of All Time. He was also ranked 6th on Rolling Stone’s Rolling Stone’s 100 greatest guitarists of All Time.
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame included three of Chuck Berry’s songs (“Johnny B. Goode”, “Maybellene”, “Rock and Roll Music”), of the 500 songs that shaped Rock and Roll.

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Mick Taylor, guitar
Don Felder, guitar
John Paul Jones, bass & keyboards

anyone care enough to help with
a vocalist and drummer?

Thanks.

Alan White, drums. (He was fired from Oasis.)

For example, how did rock inspire artists to create music genres such as rap, and other new songs/genres that we now have. Also, did rock and roll always have a rebellious tune? If not how did it change to that?

Popular Music as we know it derived from the blues. Perhaps ‘Rap’ came from what was known as ‘Talkin Blues’ which is what it says, maybe.

I am looking for a band that plays in acoustic or sounds of modern rock in acoustic. Any good suggestions?
Yes and I am thinking of learning one so what is a good rock ballard that is easy to learn to woe the ladies?

Eric Clapton

Of all the early breakthrough rock & roll artists, none is more important to the development of the music than Chuck Berry. He is its greatest songwriter, the main shaper of its instrumental voice, one of its greatest guitarists, and one of its greatest performers. Quite simply, without him there would be no Beatles, Rolling Stones, Beach Boys, Bob Dylan, nor a myriad others. There would be no standard “Chuck Berry guitar intro,” the instrument’s clarion call to get the joint rockin’ in any setting. The clippety-clop rhythms of rockabilly would not have been mainstreamed into the now standard 4/4 rock & roll beat. There would be no obsessive wordplay by modern-day tunesmiths; in fact, the whole history (and artistic level) of rock & roll songwriting would have been much poorer without him. Like Brian Wilson said, he wrote “all of the great songs and came up with all the rock & roll beats.” Those who do not claim him as a seminal influence or profess a liking for his music and showmanship show their ignorance of rock’s development as well as his place as the music’s first great creator. Elvis may have fueled rock & roll’s imagery, but Chuck Berry was its heartbeat and original mindset.
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Just let me hear some of that
rock and roll music,
any old way you choose it;
it’s got a back beat, you can’t lose it,
any old time you use it.
it’s gotta be rock and roll music,
if you want to dance with me,
if you want to dance with me.
I’ve got no kick againt modern jazz,
unless they try to play it too darn fast;
and change the beauty of the melody,
until they sounded like a symphony,
that’s why i go for that
rock and roll music …
I took my loved one over cross the tracks
so she can hear my man await a sax,
i must admit the have a rockin’ band,
man they were going like a hurricane
that’s why i go for that
rock and roll music …..
Way down south they gave a jubilee,
the jockey folks they had a jamboree,
they’re drinkin’ homebrew from a water cup,
the folks dancin’ they all got shook up
and started playin’ that
rock and roll music ….
Don’t care to hear ‘em play a tango,
i’m in the mood to dig a mambo;
it’s way to early for a congo,
so keep a rockin’ that piano
so i can hear some of that
rock and roll music …

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Mother Goose has been immortalized in history because of her amazing Storytelling and Rhyming Capabilities.. I wonder, is there any Musicians who are, or will be immortalized in history for their amazing Storytelling or Rhyming Capabilities???

Bob Dylan
Paul Mccartney
John Lennon
Kurt Cobain
Freddy Mercury
Bono
Bon Scott

The Beatles
Led Zepplin
The Doors
Pink Floyd
Nirvana
Queen
U2

It’s Only Rock’n'Roll written by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards

Keith Richards, Kid Rock, Mary J. Blige, Kelly Jones, Jon Bon Jovi, Kéllé Bryan, Jay Kay, Ozzy Osbourne, Womack & Womack,Lionel Richie, Bonnie Raitt, Dolores O’Riordan, James Brown, The Spice Girls, Mick Jagger, Robin Williams, Jackson Browne, Iggy Pop, Chrissie Hynde, Skin of Skunk Anansie, Annie Lennox, Mark Owen, Natalie Imbruglia, Huey , Fun Lovin’ Criminals,Dina Carroll, Gavin Rossdale, B.B.King,Joe Cocker, The Corrs, Steve Cradock & Simon Fowler,Colour Scene, Ronan Keating, Ray Barretto,Herbie Hancock, Francis Rossi & Rick Parfitt, S club , Eric Idle

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I never payed much attention to it in the past, but lately people have been talking so I looked up some information. I was curious what artists had already been inducted, and I was pretty surprised at the list I found. I consider myself to have a good knowledge of rock and roll music. Even if it’s an artist I’ve never bothered to listen to, I’ve probably still heard of them if they were very influential. But there are so many artists who have been inducted that I’ve never heard of. Clyde McPhatter, Bobby Blue Band, Little Willie John, The Moonglows…who are these people??? Maybe I’m not as well educated on rock as I thought. There’s also a nominee this year called Afrika Bambaataa…WHO? I also think they’ve put some very NON-rock & roll artists in here. Aretha Franklin, The Supremes, Tina Turner, Bob Marley, the Bee Gees, and now Grandmaster Flash and Madonna!?!?!?!! Are you kidding me? They deserve recognition, but rock and roll they ain’t! Am I wrong here?
Oh yeah, and how did the Beastie Boys get nominated before Metallica? Honestly!

There are non music inductees and influence inductees. Maybe they had one song, but it was that one song that launched a thousand garage bands. Why The Troggs aren’t in is beyond me. They even worked with REM a while back…

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction is decided on by Springsteen’s manager, Suzan Evans, Jann Wenner. If you’re a friend of Wenner, you move up in line. There is usually one that gets in due to a strong fanbase.

The journalists that are on the board work for… guess who?

I lost count at 200 of bands, artists, songwriters that haven’t even made it to the final cut. Genesis in particular is puzzling, because Peter Gabriel in that band or as a solo act should be in…a proven track record and a mile long resume of reasons why he should be in. Robbie Robertson and Steve Van Zandt are friends with Peter Gabriel, so it makes absolutely no sense to me. They hate Phil Collins that much?

This is from the website below, but is from a former board member who was part of the induction process.

"Thank you for your insightful article on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I am a veteran music journalist who spent two years on the Hall’s nominating committee and saw from the inside some of the politics at work.

"I saw how artists were sometimes chosen for nomination because of their affiliations with the directors of the Hall and others were shot down without so much as a moment of consideration simply because some people in that room didn’t like them personally or because an artist had bad blood with someone calling the shots.

"At one point Suzan Evans lamented the choices being made because there weren’t enough big names that would sell tickets to the dinner. That was quickly remedied by dropping one of the doo-wop groups being considered in favor of a ‘name’ artist.

"During my second year on the committee, I received a petition signed by 5000 fans of the Moody Blues requesting that the group be considered for nomination. Personally I am not much of a fan, and neither, apparently, was anyone else on the committee (at least no one who would admit it). Still, I felt they were a legitimate contender for the nomination and that it was my duty to present the petition since so many people had taken a lot of time to put it together. I plunked it down on the conference table to a great roar of laughter from the assembled bigshots.

"Jon Landau, Springsteen’s manager, asked me if I personally was a fan of theirs. ‘Not really,’ I said. ‘End of discussion,’ he said.

"On the other hand, I saw how Atlantic Records artists were routinely placed into nomination with no discussion at all, due to the large concentration of Atlantic executives on the committee. I saw how so-called critical favorites were placed into nomination while artists that were massively popular in their time were brushed off. I saw how certain pioneering artists of the 50s and early 60s were shunned because there needed to be more name power on the list, resulting in 70s superstars getting in before the people who made it possible for them. Some of those pioneers still aren’t in today — but Queen is.

"I was finally kicked off the committee after writing a guest editorial for Billboard in which I criticized the Hall for its insider ways.

"Almost ten years later nothing has changed."

(notice how many bands from Sire Records were inducted)

What rock bands have been grossly underappreciated the most? Obviously no one should post anything like Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd or Lynyrd Skynyrd or the Beatles because they all got more than their fair share of credit.

I say for rock n’ roll:
All bands on all Nuggets compilations (try for the original "Nuggets: Original Artyfacts from the First Psychedelic Era 1964-’68" and the British version "Nuggets II", which both cover the best of the garage rock of the 60’s, you’ll hear more great music in those CDs than you’ll hear over an entire lifetime of classic rock radio.

Highlights: Troggs, Seeds, 13th Floor Elevators, Copunt Five, Standells, Sound Syndicate, Pretty Things, Easy Beats, Sonics

Others: Velvet Underground, Stooges, New York Dolls, Lou Reed, Small Faces, T.Rex, Yardbirds, Them

Punk:
Lurkers, Damned, Voidoids, Stooges, Buzzcocks, Rezillos, Johnny Thunders & the Heartbreakers, Stiff Little Fingers, Slaughter & the Dogs, X, Wire, Stranglers

Who do you think?
I post this because too much is lost in history and giants like Led Zeppelin overshadow everything from their era that wasn’t at least as big as them when a band like 13th Floor Elevators or the Seeds could turn out a tune at least as good if not better than them but didn’t have all the flash and artistic excess. Good ol’ no BS rock n’ roll turned out by energetic frustrated youth just like it should be. Don’t get me wrong though, I also own most of Led Zeppelin’s music too, but the way some bands get left out should be a crime.

Well, acually Cinderella, T Rex, the Yardbirds, Velvet Underground, Lou Reed, and the New York Dolls are pretty famous (maybe I just listen to alot of music…)

but my 2 favorite bands that not alot of people know of is Porcupine Tree (amazing Progressive rock band) and Blackfield.