Do you agree or disagree (and if u disagree, tell me what rock group would u rather see instead of these guys)
My Answer: Agree (I don’t know many rock groups out there that can perform 2,263 concerts and tour virtually nonstop for 22 years as these guys did)
What about you good people? Do you agree or disagree (and if disagree, name me a group u would rather see as number two)
I totally agree.
Above and beyond any concerns about whether they are the inventors of the punk genre, the Ramones are most important to me for almost single-handedly pulling the rock idea back to basics and refocusing it in 1976. The general rock scene had been gradually spiraling out in various different directions ever since the psychadelic movement, and rock as an idea was really starting to get lost amid all the experimentation and splintering subgenres. (Don’t get me wrong, a lot of that music was pretty cool too, but the point remains.)
The Ramones took the early 60s rock sound of Motown and the surf scene, and punched it up with really loud guitars a la the MC5 and the Stooges, and basically, through their music, were screaming "HEY! REMEMBER HOW THIS ROCK THING USED TO FUN???" at everyone. Which, at the time, the Rock world desperately needed.
And yes, the huge 22-year catalog of great rock songs and the 2,263 concerts really help their case as well.
They know deep down that if it wasn’t for the Beatles they wouldn’t exist. Rock and roll was on its way out in 1963. The crooners were the new thing. The Beatles jump started rock and roll and made it into what it is today.
Are they blind??
It doesn’t bother me so much that some of the newer groups do not credit them, but it does bother me when people say the Beatles are overrated, or other things that discredit them. I think a lot of the younger people do not understand what the Beatles did for rock and pop both, because they were not here at that time.
I know that rock was on it’s way out, too, because I was here at that time and could see and hear the difference. I guess it is something that you had to be there for to understand completely, but I wish people that do not understand would take everybody’s word for it when they say that the Beatles did more for rock than most of the other groups.
There were other groups like Buddy Holly’s and others, before the Beatles, but what we are talking about is after they started dying out, rock and roll started dying out in the early 60’s, until the Beatles came along. They added a lot that people do not know about. It’s good to credit the others too, but not to leave out the Beatles, since they changed the music in the 60’s for the better. The 50’s groups were mainly in the same style, basically, and this was one reason it was dying out.
If anybody doesn’t understand this, then they were probably not around then. Not saying that others were not important, just talking about discrediting the Beatles.
Edit. What I am saying is that I do not think that people know how much the Beatles were innovators, since they were not there to see the things they did. They were the first at a lot of things, like the sound effects on a lot of the songs, before they had the pushbutton synthesizers that a lot of the later groups used.
They used backwards tapes to create new sounds , such as the track for the drums on some of the Pepper songs, they used distortion techniques, and they introduced many unheard-of and rare instruments to rock, from other countries, and just as one little example I can name off the top of my head, they were the first to have a fade -in to a song instead of a fade-out, many things that you can go to websites to find out about.
Pink Floyd said they were influenced by the Beatles because of the strange and psychedelic sounds that the Beatles had on their albums, and the style of putting songs together came from the Abbey Road Lp.
The Beatles produced a wide variety of styles that they combined with rock, as is evidence on the White Album.
Pink Floyd started up when the Beatles were still a group, so you cannot say that we do not know what we are talking about if you were not here at the time to see what was really going on. I did not even scratch the surface of what all the Beatles did for music, and all of the groups like Pink Floyd and many others then who said that they were influenced by the Beatles. There is so much more, so anyone who thinks that Pink Floyd was more innovative than the Beatles, were not around then, so they do bnot know what they are talking about.
If anyone can name a few things that some of the other groups did, I could name a lot more that the Beatles did, but I do not want to be up for another 24 hours naming some of them.
Oh, Mr. Corazon, I know it seems like they are blind, but I would bet everyone of these who are fans of other groups back then, are younger ones who were not here to understand what we are talking about. I know that a lot of the younger ones who like the Beatles, probably studied enough about what all the Beatles did to change rock.
Listening to songs like "Helter Skelter" by the Beatles, I am reminded that it was probably the first metal type song, as I remember when the White Lp first came out, how everybody was talking about it being different from anything they had heard at the time. Boy Band? I can tell these people are young.
I think that some people are only going by some of the Beatle’s songs that they had to tone down for airplay back in the 60’s.
I wish I had time to show how "ahead of their time" they were.
Hendrix was not known in 1963, when rock was on it’s way out.
and for others, we are not talking about who started rock.
The Beatles were rock, and a lot of other things good. That is why they are credited with being the greatest rock band of all time, by most surveys.
how did they impact it? I know they are thee BEST SELLING artists ever to have lived. They went threw alot of phases too. like at first they were all clean and mop toped, then came eastern mystisicism, etc… how would you say they influenced american culture??
The Beatles had a very large impact on american music. Their sound was something completely new to the states. First, albums were not a big seller…it was 45’s that sold well. The Beatles didn’t concentrate on singles, then back fill the rest of the album with "fillers"…they concentrated on the entire album being filled with something worth listening to. Then there were the videos. Soemthing revolutionary in the techniques that were used to make them…I think it was either Strawberry Fields Forever, or Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band that was the first one…around 1969 maybe? They were the first act to play at a stadium, in an outdoor venue. Until then, concerts were done in theatres…not large affairs. Their sound was new…a mixture of styles that was unique, different.
They ushered in European fashions…Twiggy and the like came into the US shortly after they did.
There are a hundred more ways that they revolutionized the American music scene!
So i’m going to london tomorrow and was wondering if anyone can tell me were i can buy rock & roll stuff (shirts, poster,hats,etc…..), places other than (it’s only rock and roll, the beatles shop, hard rock cafe)….preferably CHEAPER places………thanks
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